Kaze Tachinu - Hayao Miyazaki (13-14-15-16 settembre 2014)
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Re: nuovo progetto per hayao miyazaki (2013?)
L'importante è che il nefasto rumor su "un seguito di porco rosso" sia stato scongiurato...
"La solitudine è il prezzo da pagare per essere nati in un'epoca così piena di libertà, di indipendenza e di egoistica affermazione individuale." (Natsume Souseki)
Re: nuovo progetto per hayao miyazaki (2013?)
Da Ghibliwiki , Suzuki sull'ultimo progetto di Miyazaki:
Suzuki: In fact, we have begun to make Hayao Miyazaki's new film.
Yamaguchi (Doppiatrice di Risa in Ponyo): What kind of film?
Suzuki: It's a Jiden (autobiography). A true jiden. From birth...
Suzuki: When he finished quarter of the storyboards, its story has begun to wander from its main course, as usual (laughs). So, a staff member came to me and said, "If you do not stop it, the movie won't be completed" (i.e within a two hour timespan). So I said, "I see, I'll read the storyboards seriously", and I read it yesterday. But it's very interesting (laughs). I'm in doubt about what to do. In fact, I'm heading back to the studio after this and must talk with Miya-san (laughs). I don't know how this movie will turn out, because if we do it the movie becomes a rambling story. Though I'm thinking "oh, well".
Suzuki: I calculated the new film needs about 250,000 animation cels (laughs). We must draw it. If the story deviates to a side road, we cannot arrive at there.
Suzuki: In fact, we have begun to make Hayao Miyazaki's new film.
Yamaguchi (Doppiatrice di Risa in Ponyo): What kind of film?
Suzuki: It's a Jiden (autobiography). A true jiden. From birth...
Suzuki: When he finished quarter of the storyboards, its story has begun to wander from its main course, as usual (laughs). So, a staff member came to me and said, "If you do not stop it, the movie won't be completed" (i.e within a two hour timespan). So I said, "I see, I'll read the storyboards seriously", and I read it yesterday. But it's very interesting (laughs). I'm in doubt about what to do. In fact, I'm heading back to the studio after this and must talk with Miya-san (laughs). I don't know how this movie will turn out, because if we do it the movie becomes a rambling story. Though I'm thinking "oh, well".
Suzuki: I calculated the new film needs about 250,000 animation cels (laughs). We must draw it. If the story deviates to a side road, we cannot arrive at there.
"Durante la mia fanciullezza i dolori e le gioie superavano quelli di ogni altro. Cantavo e piangevo senza ragione, ma sempre sinceramente. Con l'età mi sono guastato. Ma la mente del bambino ritorna in me durante i sogni." Gong Zizhen
Re: nuovo progetto per hayao miyazaki (2013?)
"Ponyo Ponyo Ponyo sakana no ko Aoi umi kara yatte kita..."
Re: nuovo progetto per hayao miyazaki (2013?)
Che sia la risposta di Miyazaki Hayao alla quadrilogia di Sokurov Molokh/Taurus/The Sun/Faust ??
O meglio a Kokuriko-zaka kara ?? Mi piacerebbe. Animazione usata come puro cinema.
O meglio a Kokuriko-zaka kara ?? Mi piacerebbe. Animazione usata come puro cinema.
Re: nuovo progetto per hayao miyazaki (2013?)
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"Durante la mia fanciullezza i dolori e le gioie superavano quelli di ogni altro. Cantavo e piangevo senza ragione, ma sempre sinceramente. Con l'età mi sono guastato. Ma la mente del bambino ritorna in me durante i sogni." Gong Zizhen
Re: nuovo progetto per hayao miyazaki (2013?)
More Details on Miyazaki's Next Film
CUT magazine's September issue released on August 19 featured a very long interview (30,000 characters) with Miyazaki. Yoichi Shibuya, the best interviewer of Miyazaki, drew out the true intentions of various things about Studio Ghibli from Hayao Miyazaki and Toshio Suzuki. An abstract of interview follows:
1. When I finished drawing the rough storyboards of the Great Kanto Earthquake (1923) of part A, the Great East Japan Earthquake occurred on March 11 (storyboards are usually divided into four or five parts). I thought about how I should do this plan. After having calmed down a little, I thought that I did not have to change it at all and should continue.
2. I think it (the new film) is not a fantasy. There are some elements of fantasy, but it's not fantasy. So, I don't know how to draw it. I try to bite my tail and am turning round and round like a dog. I draw the storyboards, throw them away, gather them back, rearrange, then throw them away again (laughs). I'm cornered now.
3. I want to make a not shameful thing. I want to avoid the label, "because Miyazaki was not able to draw the storyboards, production was stopped." (laughs) Even if I fall down on the way, I want to make a thing that people want to know its sequel, like Soseki Natsume's last work "Meian" (Light and Darkness). (laughs)
4. In the next film there are lots of huge crowds scenes. Animators are already feeling dizzy at a recent meeting. So I say to them, coolly, "all you have to do is draw!" They did not become animators to draw a picture of a girl turned around. The reason why we employed 30 new faces is that we drive them hard. They had better feel toilsome first. I do not hesitate it.
5. I said to the staff members, "it will be revealed what we should make while we make two films in three years." But I understood that nothing became clear. (laughs) The world deepens in confusion more and more.
6. Though I think this probably must be said off the record, I make a movie of a man who developed a weapon of the war. This man had talent most in Japan in those days. But he failed very hard. Because he was not able to accomplish craftsmanship in defeat, his heart was torn to shreds. But when I heard that he murmured "I wanted to make a beautiful thing", I thought "this is it!"
7. I had thought why he made such a thing. Cannot make such a thing without a motive to want to make a beautiful thing. This man is not making a weapon. As a result, its motive made a beautiful thing, but it was a high-performance weapon. In a sense he is a tragic character. He failed though he did it as hard as possible. So, he finishes his life as a very unsociable old man. (laughs)
8. I think it's ugly to die with unfinished storyboards.
9. The thing which I'm going to do is that which I had thought that I must not do it most. It's a very anarchic film.
10. I'm sorry but I bet all of Ghibli on this (new film).
11. Suzuki-san said at a meeting where I wasn't present, "this takes three years". Somene reported this to me and I think it's no problem even if it takes three years. I just think, "I'm 73 years old".
12. When I made Ponyo, I said to the staff members, "you do not need draw a shadow!" But I think "we draw a shadow this time! We draw a shadow thoroughly! All you cry in a shadow!". Must not live in idleness. But they seem to live in idleness. So I say, "do it until you have a bloody nose!"
13. I yell at staff members these days in the studio. I really do not want to yell. But I yell to make me strict with myself.
14. Because I prepared to bet all on this (new film), I want to do all of what I've endured so far.
15. I don't know whether new film becomes an answer to Japan after the earthquake disaster. But I feel that we cannot solve a problem only by saying "we followed a conventional way."
16. I have an idea of fantasy which I want to make. But I cannot make it if I don't understand the world a little more. If I make it now, it would be a lie. A gloomy fantasy, a shining fantasy, both become a lie. I think that we are in such a place. Since before a nuclear plant accident, after the Lehman shock, I had thought that the times not to be able to make fantasy would come.
17. Though I think that I must finish drawing part B within this year. (laughs) After the earthquake disaster, I'm just thinking in circles. Anno is also just thinking about the last story of Evangelion in circles. I understand his feeling well. But there is no help for it even if we experience a wound with each other. Anno asked me, "Miya-san, don't you have experience difficulty?" then I said, "No. I don't experience difficulty." (laughs) But I actually have difficulty very much.
18. When I feel bad, I want to smoke CHERRY furiously. I still have 6 cartons. I'm saving them carefully.
(JAPAN TOBACCO INC abolished CHERRY because a factory suffered damage in the earthquake disaster)
19. Soseki Natsume died at 49. Anton Chekhov died at 44. What am I doing? 70 minus 44 is 26 years! (laughs)
20. Q: Can we watch it in the year after next?
M: If it goes smoothly. But I don't know because nobody can draw it. The thing which I really want to draw is beautiful so as to feel dizzy. Probably only the Japanese can understand its beauty. But the Japanese cannot draw it, too. It's interesting.
Toshio Suzuki:
I do not have a design.(laughs) This is a movie that Miya-san makes freely. It takes two years at least. Though I think it's safe to talk this, in a word, it's a story of the war. I thought that Miya-san must make this. He has various thought about the war and reads a lot of documents. So, I said "Miya-san, you should make this". It's the first time that I said such a thing to him.
NHK's Kokuriko-zaka documentary that aired on August 9 showed pre-production work on Miyazaki's new film including storybords and character designs by Miyazaki.
Miyazaki on Sketchtravel - Hayao Miyazaki's drawing is on the last page of Sketchtravel. Miyazaki drew and painted it in 3 days during January 2011. The drawing spreads over two pages and represents a young boy in front of a plane. (NHK's Kokuriko-zaka documentary showed Miyazaki writing the plan paper and drawing the storyboards.)
Miyazaki visits the flight of RC 9-shi designed by Jiro Horikoshi.
Thanks to T. Ishikawa for the news.
http://www.nausicaa.net/wiki/Latest_News
CUT magazine's September issue released on August 19 featured a very long interview (30,000 characters) with Miyazaki. Yoichi Shibuya, the best interviewer of Miyazaki, drew out the true intentions of various things about Studio Ghibli from Hayao Miyazaki and Toshio Suzuki. An abstract of interview follows:
1. When I finished drawing the rough storyboards of the Great Kanto Earthquake (1923) of part A, the Great East Japan Earthquake occurred on March 11 (storyboards are usually divided into four or five parts). I thought about how I should do this plan. After having calmed down a little, I thought that I did not have to change it at all and should continue.
2. I think it (the new film) is not a fantasy. There are some elements of fantasy, but it's not fantasy. So, I don't know how to draw it. I try to bite my tail and am turning round and round like a dog. I draw the storyboards, throw them away, gather them back, rearrange, then throw them away again (laughs). I'm cornered now.
3. I want to make a not shameful thing. I want to avoid the label, "because Miyazaki was not able to draw the storyboards, production was stopped." (laughs) Even if I fall down on the way, I want to make a thing that people want to know its sequel, like Soseki Natsume's last work "Meian" (Light and Darkness). (laughs)
4. In the next film there are lots of huge crowds scenes. Animators are already feeling dizzy at a recent meeting. So I say to them, coolly, "all you have to do is draw!" They did not become animators to draw a picture of a girl turned around. The reason why we employed 30 new faces is that we drive them hard. They had better feel toilsome first. I do not hesitate it.
5. I said to the staff members, "it will be revealed what we should make while we make two films in three years." But I understood that nothing became clear. (laughs) The world deepens in confusion more and more.
6. Though I think this probably must be said off the record, I make a movie of a man who developed a weapon of the war. This man had talent most in Japan in those days. But he failed very hard. Because he was not able to accomplish craftsmanship in defeat, his heart was torn to shreds. But when I heard that he murmured "I wanted to make a beautiful thing", I thought "this is it!"
7. I had thought why he made such a thing. Cannot make such a thing without a motive to want to make a beautiful thing. This man is not making a weapon. As a result, its motive made a beautiful thing, but it was a high-performance weapon. In a sense he is a tragic character. He failed though he did it as hard as possible. So, he finishes his life as a very unsociable old man. (laughs)
8. I think it's ugly to die with unfinished storyboards.
9. The thing which I'm going to do is that which I had thought that I must not do it most. It's a very anarchic film.
10. I'm sorry but I bet all of Ghibli on this (new film).
11. Suzuki-san said at a meeting where I wasn't present, "this takes three years". Somene reported this to me and I think it's no problem even if it takes three years. I just think, "I'm 73 years old".
12. When I made Ponyo, I said to the staff members, "you do not need draw a shadow!" But I think "we draw a shadow this time! We draw a shadow thoroughly! All you cry in a shadow!". Must not live in idleness. But they seem to live in idleness. So I say, "do it until you have a bloody nose!"
13. I yell at staff members these days in the studio. I really do not want to yell. But I yell to make me strict with myself.
14. Because I prepared to bet all on this (new film), I want to do all of what I've endured so far.
15. I don't know whether new film becomes an answer to Japan after the earthquake disaster. But I feel that we cannot solve a problem only by saying "we followed a conventional way."
16. I have an idea of fantasy which I want to make. But I cannot make it if I don't understand the world a little more. If I make it now, it would be a lie. A gloomy fantasy, a shining fantasy, both become a lie. I think that we are in such a place. Since before a nuclear plant accident, after the Lehman shock, I had thought that the times not to be able to make fantasy would come.
17. Though I think that I must finish drawing part B within this year. (laughs) After the earthquake disaster, I'm just thinking in circles. Anno is also just thinking about the last story of Evangelion in circles. I understand his feeling well. But there is no help for it even if we experience a wound with each other. Anno asked me, "Miya-san, don't you have experience difficulty?" then I said, "No. I don't experience difficulty." (laughs) But I actually have difficulty very much.
18. When I feel bad, I want to smoke CHERRY furiously. I still have 6 cartons. I'm saving them carefully.
(JAPAN TOBACCO INC abolished CHERRY because a factory suffered damage in the earthquake disaster)
19. Soseki Natsume died at 49. Anton Chekhov died at 44. What am I doing? 70 minus 44 is 26 years! (laughs)
20. Q: Can we watch it in the year after next?
M: If it goes smoothly. But I don't know because nobody can draw it. The thing which I really want to draw is beautiful so as to feel dizzy. Probably only the Japanese can understand its beauty. But the Japanese cannot draw it, too. It's interesting.
Toshio Suzuki:
I do not have a design.(laughs) This is a movie that Miya-san makes freely. It takes two years at least. Though I think it's safe to talk this, in a word, it's a story of the war. I thought that Miya-san must make this. He has various thought about the war and reads a lot of documents. So, I said "Miya-san, you should make this". It's the first time that I said such a thing to him.
NHK's Kokuriko-zaka documentary that aired on August 9 showed pre-production work on Miyazaki's new film including storybords and character designs by Miyazaki.
Miyazaki on Sketchtravel - Hayao Miyazaki's drawing is on the last page of Sketchtravel. Miyazaki drew and painted it in 3 days during January 2011. The drawing spreads over two pages and represents a young boy in front of a plane. (NHK's Kokuriko-zaka documentary showed Miyazaki writing the plan paper and drawing the storyboards.)
Miyazaki visits the flight of RC 9-shi designed by Jiro Horikoshi.
Thanks to T. Ishikawa for the news.
http://www.nausicaa.net/wiki/Latest_News
"Ponyo Ponyo Ponyo sakana no ko Aoi umi kara yatte kita..."
Re: nuovo progetto per hayao miyazaki (2013?)
Confermo...sono ipotesi piuttosto diffuse nei siti, quei due articoli che aevete citato, da Animeclick dovevamo integrarli con delle note da Mata Web, è un gruppo francese ben noto, dove c'era un articolo, scritto ben prima di questi di Buta dove si parlava poprio di questa che credo sia più che un'ipotesi a questo punto..ovviamente dovrei leggermi tutto e fare un confronto anche con un'altra fonte...
La lettera uccide,lo spirito salva.
Re: nuovo progetto per hayao miyazaki (2013?)
E confermo anche il post nipponico...lo ho ricevuto personalmente da Massimo Soumarè da bhè un pò troppo tempo oramai...
La lettera uccide,lo spirito salva.
Re: nuovo progetto per hayao miyazaki (2013?)
ah, com'e' piccolo il mondo, proprio massimo mi aveva segnalato il link sopra...
"Ponyo Ponyo Ponyo sakana no ko Aoi umi kara yatte kita..."
Re: nuovo progetto per hayao miyazaki (2013?)
La rete, la vita, è fatta di sfere che si incrociano e risuonano.luca-san ha scritto:ah, com'e' piccolo il mondo, proprio massimo mi aveva segnalato il link sopra...
La lettera uccide,lo spirito salva.
Re: nuovo progetto per hayao miyazaki (2013?)
da ANN
Nel corso di una Lezione tenuta a Matsumoto, Goro Miyazaki conferma che il padre è attualmente a lavoro sul nuovo film e che uscirà nelle sale probabilmente nel 2013.
Nel corso di una Lezione tenuta a Matsumoto, Goro Miyazaki conferma che il padre è attualmente a lavoro sul nuovo film e che uscirà nelle sale probabilmente nel 2013.
"Durante la mia fanciullezza i dolori e le gioie superavano quelli di ogni altro. Cantavo e piangevo senza ragione, ma sempre sinceramente. Con l'età mi sono guastato. Ma la mente del bambino ritorna in me durante i sogni." Gong Zizhen
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Re: nuovo progetto per hayao miyazaki (2013?)
Ergo, noialtri non lo vedremo prima del 2016genbu ha scritto:da ANN
Nel corso di una Lezione tenuta a Matsumoto, Goro Miyazaki conferma che il padre è attualmente a lavoro sul nuovo film e che uscirà nelle sale probabilmente nel 2013.
Re: nuovo progetto per hayao miyazaki (2013?)
Come mai dici questo?
Tutti gli ultimi film Ghibli sono usciti in Italia in genere l'anno dopo l'uscita Giapponese.
Tutti gli ultimi film Ghibli sono usciti in Italia in genere l'anno dopo l'uscita Giapponese.
"La solitudine è il prezzo da pagare per essere nati in un'epoca così piena di libertà, di indipendenza e di egoistica affermazione individuale." (Natsume Souseki)
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Re: nuovo progetto per hayao miyazaki (2013?)
Magari ti riferisci al fatto che attenderai:PeterParker ha scritto:Ergo, noialtri non lo vedremo prima del 2016genbu ha scritto:da ANN
Nel corso di una Lezione tenuta a Matsumoto, Goro Miyazaki conferma che il padre è attualmente a lavoro sul nuovo film e che uscirà nelle sale probabilmente nel 2013.
- uscita nei cinema:
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- edizioni economiche;
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Cobra70
Re: nuovo progetto per hayao miyazaki (2013?)
e i siti cialtroni italiani, scrivono (come se fosse difficile tradurre dall'inglese..) che sara' goro il regista del film...genbu ha scritto:da ANN
Nel corso di una Lezione tenuta a Matsumoto, Goro Miyazaki conferma che il padre è attualmente a lavoro sul nuovo film e che uscirà nelle sale probabilmente nel 2013.
http://www.animeclick.it/news/30240-ghi ... #messaggio
http://www.komixjam.it/goro-miyazaki-an ... r-il-2013/
http://www.plus-network.it/ANIMANGAPLUS ... sp?ID=3259
"Ponyo Ponyo Ponyo sakana no ko Aoi umi kara yatte kita..."